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02 Nov 2012 20:50 #1 by dandjcr
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Chris J
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I have just ordered a set of alloys for my OKA 166 and thought I would share this information with you all. The rims I chose were Eagle 058. They are being supplied by Mr Wheel Deal in the US. Pricing as follows:
4 x Eagle 058 - 16” x 8” US $ 389.00
6 x Eagle 058 – 16" x 8” US $ 589.00
Freight on 4 rims US $ 288.00 air freight
Freight on 6 rims US $ 428.00 air freight
Total AUD dollars $ 692.56 landed in Townsville, via DHL with no GST and no extra clearance or paper work required.
The only extra required are the wheel lug, I ordered 40 in total from the US cost $ 93.22 landed in Townsville.
The rims fit perfectly with no modifications required.



I also priced some Toyo open country M/T LT285/75R16 but price with shipping was only $ 45.00 more here in Townsville.
I plan to change out my existing steel rims with the alloys as the steels are on the outer limit for balancing. The originals tires will go onto a second set of new alloys. The overall plan is to have 4 on OKA, two on the Camper Trailer and two spares.
This guy is very easy to deal with, Payment is via PayPal, and my alloys were paid for last Monday, dispatched Wednesday, arrived at Sydney Mascot airport Friday evening and delivered to my house Wednesday. Freight was via DHL.

Regards, Chris

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Chris and Janice Jones - OKA 166





December 1, 2011 at 10:59 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Hal Harvey
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Good info Chris. I wonder if you want to stay with tyres that small... this from a previous post:

825/16 has a diameter of 32.4" and looks plain wrong on a bus!
285/75R16 has a diameter of 32.8".
295/75R16 has a dimaeter of 33.8".
265/70R19.5 has a diameter of 34.1" (standard LT)
315/75R16 has a diameter of 34.6" (see #147, but they'll go up a size next time).
900/16 (= 255/100R16) has a diameter of 35.2".
285/70R19.5 has a diameter of 35.2" (standard LT bus)
305/70R19.5 has a diameter of 36.3" (requires wider-than-std rims)
325/85R16 has a diameter of 37.8" (as per okadoc import)
355/80R16 has a diameter of 38.4" (mine, and as large as you can go without a body lift). 1100/16 is similar.
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Hal

December 1, 2011 at 12:31 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Chris J
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HI Hal,
The tires I have on now are LT 8.25 x 16 they are 850mm high or 33.4” . The Toyo’s are 33” high, trying to stay with about the same height as OKA 166 sits comfortable on highway at 90Kph at 2,800 rpm in 5th gear. Also the 8.25"s will be used as spares and trailrer tires
The Eagles 058 state max tire Dia is 33”,.
My other option are larger eagles on second alloy order with either LT315/70R16 or LT385/70R16.
Toyo LT285/75R16 127Q E/10, rim size 8.0-8.5-10.0, tread dept 19mm, Tire Dia 33”, width 11.6”, Load 3,740 lb, Press 80 PSI
Toyo LT315/70R16 127Q E10, rim size 8.0-8.5-10.00, Tread depth 21mm, Tire height 34.9":,width 12.9” ,Load 3,860 Pres 65 PSI
Toyo LT385/70R16 130Q D/8, rim size 10.0-11.0-12.0, tread depth 21mm, tire height 37.7”, width 15.6” Load 4,190, pres 50 PSi
all suggestions are welcome.

regards, Chris.



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Chris and Janice Jones - OKA 166





December 1, 2011 at 3:27 PM Flag Quote & Reply

John & Laura Szkoruda
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Chris,
We have the same wheels , Eagle 058 , but ours are 16 x 10, fitted straight on no problem, have had them for years. As per Hal's post ( we are #147) we are going up a tyre size next time and putting on Mickey Thompson tyres. Price was good and sounds so easy to get them here. There are photo's of #147 in albums and in "For Sale" section, showing the wheels, also some recent pics showing ours & Hal's bus side by side , good comparison in tyre size.
Cheers
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John & Laura Szkoruda OKA 147

December 2, 2011 at 8:02 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Hal Harvey
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At the risk of going off topic - though it may lead back to it - I reckon your tacho's out Chris - unless you've done some significant re-engineering.

>> The tires I have on now are LT 8.25 x 16 = 33.4”. OKA 166 sits at 90km/h at 2,800 rpm in 5th gear. <<

Fifth gear on a Spicer T5-290 is 0.79:1... standard diff ratio is 4.88:1... so an rpm of 2800 with a target speed of 56mph (90km/h) would require a 26"-tall tyre!

I researched it because with my 38"-tall tyres, that speed requires 1900 rpm according to this calculator... which is what the tacho agrees with.

I still reckon you should go taller with your tyres anyway.

>> The overall plan is to have four on the OKA, two on the Camper Trailer and two spares. <<



Same plan here... for the Gunbarrel we carried one of the smaller-diameter original tyres (on a 19.5 rim) in the original under-the-bum position as well, in case we got desperate.
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Hal

December 2, 2011 at 2:34 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Chris J
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Hi Hal,
Yes I agree with your comments. But I’m limited to the rim width of 8 “ and trying to get an All Terrain or Mud Terrain tire with a load rating of 1550kg is difficult. Planning now to go with 305/70R16LT, 840mm dia, if you have other suggestions or solutions please comment, I’ll also check speed and RPM and get back to you.
Regards, Chris,
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Chris and Janice Jones - OKA 166





December 2, 2011 at 5:16 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Rodman
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How about the 1100 R16 XZL 38" tire? Also this Eagle rim, does it have the weight carrying for the load of the OKA? I mean if you're out in the sand hit a rock and bend the rim what can you do about that????
December 3, 2011 at 4:49 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter & Sandra James Oka 374
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The 058's can carry the weight of the Oka, the biggest problem is getting the tyres with the carrying capacity in the larger (>285) sizes.
We're running 315/75R16's ATm Hankooks but they are 50kg under carrying capacity for the Oka. When I was looking Toyo didn't bring the higher capacity tyres into Oz and neither do too many others. They are wearing well after approx 14k so far over a huge variety of roads/tracks and terrain.
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Oka 374 LT Van

December 3, 2011 at 8:48 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Chris J
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Rodman at December 3, 2011 at 4:49 AM
How about the 1100 R16 XZL 38" tire? Also this eagle rim, does it have the weight carring for the load of the OKA? I mean if your our in the sand hit a rock and bend the rim what can you do about that????
Hi Rodman,
Yes the 1100 R16 XZL would be great, but just trying to save a few dollars here, I have pricing on XZL 255/100R16 at $690 ea and XML325.85R16 at $1370 ea.
I have sent an email to Eagle asking load rating on these rims and will get back to you shortly, I think the Eagles are border line with regards to load capacity and I suppose if I hit a rock or damaged the rim it would need to be changed out with spare and replaced at a later date.
Oka rating on differentials are front 2400kg and rear 3100kg. Vehicle GVM 5500kg.

regards, Chris.

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Chris and Janice Jones - OKA 166





December 3, 2011 at 10:45 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Hank Onthewater
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What about the Michelin tyres you referred to?
copied from email from www.aircrafttyres.com/truck_4x4_tyres.html
We have very nice used 80/90% 325/85R16 Michelin XML for:275,- euro each without transport. We also can offer 255/100R16 Michelin XZLretreads for: 225,- euro each without transport.

Would these kind of tyres not be the best offroad tyre? Would theses tyres fit on a alloy rim 9 or 10 inches wide?
Jus one has to organise and pay for shipping, and hope that the "2nd hand" tag will not upset the DAFF and AQIS (quarantine stuff).
As far as bending a rim: maybe we should treat the rim as a disposable item, as price of a rim is much lower then a tyre, and tyres like the XML / XZL seem to be indestructable and the rim is the weak link.
Hank
December 3, 2011 at 11:25 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Tim 414
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I believe that interco tires from the USA have started importing to AUS and have the appropriate carring capacity . Specificially the SS-M16 tire seen here : www.intercotire.com/tires.php?id=2&g=1 available in most sizes
The Aus importer can be contacted at intercotyres.com.au/
Cheers
Tim
December 3, 2011 at 1:16 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Hal Harvey
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>> But I’m limited to the rim width of 8“ and trying to get an All Terrain or Mud Terrain tire with a load rating of 1550kg is difficult. <<

Yes I now see the challenge. You only have a complete choice of tyres with 10" rims... the Interco SS-M16s for example, all suit (33", 35" and 37") in the wider sizes, but on an 8" rim only the 33" tyres suit the load.
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Hal

December 3, 2011 at 3:16 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Chris J
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Hi all,
This is so far the best I have found Toyo open country MT LT315/75R16 127Q E/10 (35X12.50R16).
Rim size 8.0-8.5-10.0, tread depth 21mm, tire height 34.9”, Load rating 3860 lb / 1750 KG. Pressure 65 PSI.
I can get these for $ 445.00 ea fitted. No problems getting tires with the 10” wide alloys.
Regards, Chris.

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Chris and Janice Jones - OKA 166





December 3, 2011 at 3:57 PM Flag Quote & Reply

outyonda.com
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g day all,
I run 285/16 Goodyear Wrangler on my Okas. tried & tested over 86k on 3 Okas.
Load rated at 1750 kg, good on sand @ 20psi, hwy @80psi, rock @40psi gravel @60psi a bloody good tyre all round. I use the good tear duratrack & have had good milage so far. I tryed the silent armors but no good, load 1500kg they fractured just didn't cut the mustard. Thay have another one called muddy, deep directional tread & load 1800kg, I'll try a set of then next. Tyre size affects lots of things. Get it wrong & it will be a pig to steer, performance & handling will be up the creek:: The rule of thumb is: imagine a line through the centre of your king pins down to the ground then run a line down the face of your hub, where the two points meet, is your axis, this should be the centre of your tyre . too tall,too short, too wide, these three points won't line up.. Just ask an old speedway nut, thay play with the axis point to do funny things going round in circles.
cheers Brett.\
p s I've had 825x16 900x16 19.5 44s 35s x16 & find 285x16 the best.
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December 3, 2011 at 5:01 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Chris J
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Thanks Brett,
I’ll go with your suggestion on the 285R75/16 .Placed order today for Goodyear Wrangler Duratrack.
Thanks to everyone who made comment, I’m learning a lot about these OKA’s and hopefully all will work out fine.
Regards. Chris.

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Chris and Janice Jones - OKA 166





December 5, 2011 at 6:45 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter 334
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It seems that the Eagle Alloy 058 is the choice, as i do also have them ,but as for tyres i was hoping to put on the rims Good Year Wrangler Dura Trac 315 /75 r 16 at 127Q but after 8 week wait the distributor tells me he can not locate that tyre in the states , i was so peed off to the thought of a nother 8 week wait for some other tyre ,so i settled for BFG 315/75 R 16 , not the same weight carry at121 but as money is tight they will do , this begs the question of the numbers that on the side of the tyre 315 = as i thought is the width of the tyre but no on the BFG =275 and no matter where i put the tape it still reads 275mm wide can any one tell me why 315 only equalls to 275???
December 5, 2011 at 7:24 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Hal Harvey
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This is the width in mm of the tyre from sidewall to sidewall when it's unstressed and you're looking at it head on (or top-down). This is known as the section width.
So says www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html
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Hal

December 5, 2011 at 11:11 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter 334
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Thanks Hal for the insite but seems stupid to put a number on the tyre and say its 315mm and it really isn"t i was hoping for a lot more width than what i got thanks !
December 6, 2011 at 7:07 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Rodman
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Its really to bad there is no 37"/12.50/16.5 tires in Oka land. These tires have proven they are road and off road worthy here in the states. Also they are very sharp looking tire. Here they are on a Jeep Wrangler I build last here. I will show you before and after photos. needless to say neighbors were not happy lol I built ths in my garage.
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December 10, 2011 at 3:07 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter & Sandra James Oka 374
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Rodman we can buy them here, not Goodyears but Nankang's, I have them on my Humvee.
16.5 rims and tyres are very scarce here in Oz which is why there is only one tyre available easily.
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Oka 374 LT Van

December 10, 2011 at 3:30 PM


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Rodman
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Peter & Sandra James Oka 374 at December 10, 2011 at 3:30 PM
Rodman we can buy them here, not Goodyears but Nankang's, I have them on my Humvee.
16.5 rims and tyres are very scarce here in Oz which is why there is only one tyre available easily.
Post a photo of it I would like to see the tyre and Humvee
December 10, 2011 at 3:40 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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