Maximum Vehicle Age for tourist bus Queensland

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02 Nov 2012 22:23 #1 by dandjcr
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Outback Jack
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Does anyone know what the maximum age a tourist bus can be in Queensland and how hard it is to comply?


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January 9, 2011 at 11:06 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Tony Lee
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This is for buses hired to cart school kids around

[Whoops - formatting is hashed up but good enough to get the idea]

What minimum safety standard requirements apply to the bus?

Government standards cover a range of safety issues, such as the design, age and
route of the bus. In Queensland, design standards have been set according to
factors such as the speeds and distances travelled. The design standards relevant
to you will depend on the distance you are travelling.

1. Local trips

If you intend to travel within a 40km radius, you may use a bus designed
specifically for local trips. These buses have wider aisles, smaller seats and lower
floors than buses used for longer distances. The maximum age of buses used for
local trips should be no more than 25 years for heavy buses* and no more than
20 years for light buses, unless otherwise permitted by Queensland Transport.
*
(See ‘Important terms’ at the back of this guide for definitions of heavy and light buses.)

2. Regional trips

If you intend to travel up to a 350km radius, you must use a bus designed
for regional trips. (You can also use these buses for local trips if you wish.)
When chartering a bus for a regional trip, be aware that:

padding on exposed metal such
backs and rails
• safety in buses less than 20 years of age,as seatthose that enteredmust be
fitted
or in
service

in Queensland on or after 1 June 1997.

with
• seat belts complying facingthe Australian Design Rules are a compulsory
requirement for side
seats; and

should
no more than
years
• the maximum age of the bus20 yearsbefor light buses*25unless for heavy
buses* and no more than
otherwise

permitted by Queensland Transport. (See ‘Important terms’ at the back of
this guide for definitions of heavy and light buses.)

3. Open trips

If you intend to travel further than a 350km radius, be aware that:

be
• the bus mustseatsdesigned specifically for long distance travel (e.g. it must
have coach
and suitable luggage space);

• some buses will be fitted with seat belts; and
maximum age
buses used for open trips should
more than
• the years for heavyofbuses* and no more than 10 yearsbe nolight buses,*
15
for

unless otherwise permitted by Queensland Transport.(See ‘important terms’
at the back of this guide for definitions of heavy and light buses. Contact
your local Queensland Transport office for more information if you need it).

Queensland Transport, Chartering a bus, 1995

Buses and coaches which operate in Queensland are designed to meet very high
engineering and manufacturing standards. Their safety features are an essential
component and rank among the world’s best. If you believe a bus does not comply
with the relevant standards, raise your concerns with the operator or advise your
nearest Queensland Transport office of your concern.

Are seat belts compulsory?

It is not compulsory for buses to have seat belts, except for new buses designed
for long-distance travel. Heavy buses* manufactured after 1 July 1994 and
designed for long-distance travel on open highways must be equipped with lap
sash seat belts for all occupants. Similarly, all light buses* manufactured after 1
July 1995 and designed for long-distance travel are required to be equipped with
seat belts. Some older buses may have been retrofitted with seat belts. (See
‘Important terms’ at the back of this guide for definitions of heavy and light buses.)

Seat belts are an optional safety feature that school communities may consider
when planning to charter a bus for a school trip.

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January 9, 2011 at 11:13 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Tony Lee
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*Heavy Bus means a bus with a gross vehicle mass of more than 5 tonnes.

Transport Operations (Passenger Transport) Act 1994

*Light Bus means a bus with gross vehicle mass of not more than 5 tonnes.

Transport Operations (Passenger Transport) Act 1994

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January 9, 2011 at 11:15 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Outback Jack
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Cheers for that Tony.
So it appears you cant use any OKA over 10 yo as a tourist bus, if I read this correctly
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January 9, 2011 at 11:20 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Tony Lee
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Posts: 540
local trips
The maximum age of buses used for
local trips should be no more than 25 years for heavy buses* and no more than
20 years for light buses, unless otherwise permitted by Queensland Transport.
*
Intermediate
the maximum age of the busshould
no more than20 years for light buses

*25 for heavy

otherwise

permitted by Queensland Transport. (See ‘Important terms’ at the back of
this guide for definitions of heavy and light buses.)

tours
maximum age
buses used for open trips should
more than
• 15 years for heavyofbuses* and no more than 10 yearsbe nolight buses,*


unless otherwise permitted by Queensland Transport.(See ‘important terms’
at the back of this guide for definitions of heavy and light buses. Contact
your local Queensland Transport office for more information if you need it).



so 15 years for oka since it is over 5 tonne

I know in NSW the provisions are similar but the clock can be reset by a major rebuilt. - hence the "otherwise permitted"
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January 9, 2011 at 11:27 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Outback Jack
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OK 15 years then. So most OKA`s would be near end of life as tourist buses in QLD. Unless of course it is a NT.
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January 9, 2011 at 11:31 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Tony Lee
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There are also provisions in some stated regarding average ave of a fleet. Under some conditions you could have a 25 YO bus and a 10YO bus and still run with the old bus.

I would have thought it would be easier to rebuilt an OKA to get an extension than a 12m tour bus.
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January 9, 2011 at 11:48 AM Flag Quote & Reply

John & Laura Szkoruda
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Check with the Wilderness Chalenge boys from Cairns they should be able to tell you , they have Oka's, as far as I am aware I think its 10 years old, depends on what area like National Parks etc also I think.Speak to Qld transport & Wilderness Challange, they guys on the Gold Coast are still running Oka's to Mt Tamborine so best check with Qld Transport & whatever Park etc you are operating your tours through.
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January 16, 2011 at 6:37 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Maryanne Jacques
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Definately contact Qld Transport to verify but I think you will find it is 20 years. A lot depends on where the tour vehicle is operating to. I operate an OKA to Cooktown which is clasified Regional. She is coming up to 16yrs old. Wilderness Challenge operate OKA to Cape York, Kimberley's and the Northern Terriotry.

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January 22, 2011 at 4:47 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Maryanne Jacques
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Forgot to mention, you are required to have the vehicle inspected by the Department of Transport every 6 months and I can guarantee they go over it with a fine tooth comb.
You also apply to same department for a Tour Operators Accreditation.
January 22, 2011 at 4:50 PM

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