Weight of Perkins Phaser 110 long motor
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approx guesses or otherwise would be appreciated
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OT, but I looked at the new 2.8L Cummins crate motor. It is also heavier than a Perkins.
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Rick Whitworth wrote: does anyone know the weight of a fully runnable 4 cylinder Perkins Phaser 110 long motor
approx guesses or otherwise would be appreciated
very round figures will do, need too know for freight cost
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will be interesting to see what they say next week.
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In my 4wd Foton trayback which weighs just under 2 tonne it goes pretty well.
Foton use the same engine in their Aumark range of small trucks so it can pull much more as well.
A brochure I have for Off Highway Cummins engines quotes the 4BT being 338-355kg and a 6BT being 432-452kg wet.
A brochure for a Perkins Phaser 110 as being 280kg dry but that is a basic industrial engine without hydraulic pump and only an alternator.
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www.4btswaps.com/threads/acurate-weight-of-6bt.16938/
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- Perkins came in at 424kg,
- 6bt came in at 552kg - oil 16kg - air compressor 28kg = 508kg
Conclusion
The heaviest version of the 6bt (mine) is roughly 85kg heavier than the perky so i would suggest VE inj pump versions with the OKA bell and spicer box would be another 10-20kg lighter... so only say 70kg heavier. In my book 70kg is a small penalty for a minimum of doubling your power and all that goes with that!
Let the arguments begin!
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Let the arguments begin!
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The engine I had freighted did not have a bell housing adaptor plate, flywheel or fan hub but everything else including starter motor, so must have been 'weigh' over the 240kg figure that I gave them.Alister McBride wrote: - Perkins came in at 424kg,
I was going to refer to the 240kg quoted on the Perkins website if he freight company CTI logistics had any problems but they did not check the weight. They were more concerned about volume. {motor was strapped to a 1.2 squ m std pallet}.
They guaranteed 5 working days (it only took 3) and cost $170 door to door from Perth depot to Melbourne depot, fork lift at each end.
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Paul - i wouldn't touch such a rattly old unrefined beast! lol (would bolt straight up though wouldn't it hmmm! )
I forgot to mention, power steering pumps were on both as well.
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Alister McBride wrote: stir up some of the pro perky wet blankets!
what's next?
wrap it up in a wet blanket in the shed to gather dust or make it rainy day hobby...
a fully balanced, blue printed reco with some options...
say.. shaved, ported head, lumpy cam, oversized valves/springs, ram inlet maniford, extractors, twin waste gated turbos, modified IP and injectors
a fire breathing Perky
heh, heh what a dream
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Paul Scherek wrote: Funny... that is exactly how my Perky came!! Honest.....
tell me more Paul. Photos? Specs? Who? When? Where?
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throw out on my starter won't fit the ring gear
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Rick, nothing wrong with a rainy day project! I like em, gotta be doing other things on the sunny days anyway!
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Except that it is faster - and smooth like a sewing machine - I notice no difference in the driving.
At a weigh in after the fitting it measured 4700 kilos - not tare weight, set up ready for travel but without food, wine and clothes. I think it could easily be downgraded to 4495 kilos - I have a lot of heavy extra facilities which while nice are expendable.
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